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Old 07-15-2009, 03:40 PM
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I agree with Gheari. Like for a long time, samurai and ashigaru alike would get respect and promotion by presenting the decaptitated heads of those they had killed in battle to their leaders. Which I can't really see a European knight doing.

Also with a note to shinobi, there were few cases of samurai-shinobi. Generally, shinobi had cover jobs, mainly as peasant farmers.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:20 AM
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If by samurai you mean the overall tactical procedures of a warring clan? Yes sir.

If by samurai you mean individual Bushi, negative.

I'm an over idealistic iaijutsu practitioner that'll honorably duel your ballista and behead you before it's wreckage with a rusty tanto when I could've had the ashigaru take you out at a hundred yards with some muskets.

But really, what would killing you by musket that prove? - furthermore, isn't that option missing out on a great deal of granduer? The right to leadership of the nation should be an earned and proven thing. We must weigh the balance of cheaply purchased success with earnestly deserved superiority. Otherwise...the people will revolt at the wickedness of our victories. Just like they are in Tokyo pretty much all the goddamn time.

Samurai suck, Bushi rock.

So yeah, I'll burn your forest because you got the damn koga in there and they're troublesome. I know, it's terrible - but so are koga.

But when I come up to that castle, I'm gonna cut your head off myself, TOKUGAWA!!! AHHHH!!!

As for Shogun Total War? An army of kensai > anything you've got, you dutch-loving traitors.

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Old 07-16-2009, 08:25 AM
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lol there aren't going to be any muskets in t:law xD, just to let you know, but yeh we get the drift
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Well ofcourse, everybody loves the Dutch
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No! Not just Dutch, what about the Portuguese?! They arrived first... =(
(Besides, the dutch instill their religion on you - the Portuguese just want your cash. )
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Yeah, but look what happened after the dutch and portuguese? Total isolation for 250 years!! Then the americans did their usual thing of going in with their big guns to push the little guy around. Hmm, off topic!!
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Indeed, they have legal drugs :O
I always use them to in shogun, depending on which daymio i play
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Stay on topic, please.
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Lolz, if we are speaking of true samurai way, then we have to make sure we separate Japanese literature from Japanese History.
Lets start with literature. Bushido (武士道), translated as Warriors Way (or Samurai Way), is believed in Western countries to be something that always existed within the samurai. No, not true. In the early 18th century a book Budoshoshinshu by Taira Shigesuke came out. There he clearly stated what points made a man true samurai, what is the law of a true samurai, and bla bla bla. This is believed to be the true code of the samurai. The book had more educational character then it was a description of the rules. The writer also took in regard the history of 47 ronin, whose master was killed and then they legendary sacrificed themselves to avenge his death.
Now for the historical part. The battle at Sekigahara in 1600, where Tokugawa Ieyasu became the winner and later the Shougun of all Japan. This battle was quite fun actually. There was no such thing as bushido there. The daimyos along with their man often switched the side, they came over to the winning side and so on. Many of the daimyos didn't participate at all. They came there just to watch the battle, and then some did jump into the fight for the winning side. This was the way Japan had intern Battles. That's why Ieyasu made such a strict regime after he became a shougun. He controlled every daimyo with hostages-, annual visit to the shougun systems, and lots of others.
So, what's there to brabble about True samurai tactics? They were the tactics of real man, trying to survive hoping to get more. Every man is by himself, but he survives only in a pack, the way he fits in a pack is for everyone different.
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yeah, in reality the chicken $#!7 nature of man will almost always win out in large groups, unless whoever is in charge is strong enough to keep controll, or smart enough. But that is off topic too.
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