(Plan)Trading and manufacturing family

[Grun]

For understandable reasons most families are centered around fighting, but I wanted to make this one.

This is mostly to see if anyone is interested, other than me. Wouldn't be much use if I made the family when I can, and no one would join.

So, mostly, we'd try to get a good control over the tradings and prices of goods. We'd try to get a good store of most goods, to sell to high prices if someone is desperate for it.

The family would also include those who make and process goods, as well as those who just travel all over to sell and buy goods.

I figure, if this family gets sucsesfull, the other families would want to help us out in exchange for good prices and to be sure we don't refuse to sell to them.

So, anyone interested or anyone who see any faults with the plan?

[Trin]

Well, a lot of lone swords for hire would always need a cover. Working in the unassuming role of a trader would be perfect. Travelling merchants are perfect covers for wandering assassins.

[moses]

indeed, also this is a good idea cause it adds more diversity to the families.

[Grun]

Well, a lot of lone swords for hire would always need a cover. Working in the unassuming role of a trader would be perfect. Travelling merchants are perfect covers for wandering assassins.
Yea, that would be kinda bad for this family, if no one felt they could trust them.

The main thought about this family is not fighting(though some hired merchenaries could be employed and a few members with good fighting abilities is never bad), but simply trading and manufacturing.

If we get members who are prepared to travel great distances, you would have to get to buy something cheap and sell other things expencive. Much money is a good defence against other families, too.

Off course, this depends much on how developed the selling and buying system will be. If it will be basic and easy, I imgine this family as a more manufacturing family.

But if the selling and buying system will be well-devloped and a big part of the game, with ares where something is cheap and something is expencive, I imagine this family more focused on the trading aspect, to earn money by selling in partiqular places or investing in a partiqular resource.

[ShininShado]

I think it's a great idea for a family. I've been thinking there needed to be a merchant-based family for a while, the only real caste not represented yet. If nobody joins right away, I'd stick with the idea, as I'm sure members will spring up.

[Abc]

Yes, the idea is a good and original one for the forum. However, if you are ever looking for said, "mercenaries", then please don't hesitate to call upon the Gokai-Shido Family. We are always available for such jobs.

Shira

[Slots]

wait i thought someone already came up with an idea to control the market through a family... he wanted to call it the Yamshita family i think ... its still in this forum part if you look... but the guy who had the idea isnt here... or hasnt been here for awhile...

[ToshiMaru]

well, if he starts Yamashita Family, then its still cool. Competition My Friends! :D wonder whats next, maybe a Bad Guy FAmily.

[ShininShado]

The Yamashita Family was to control markets through underworld influence. I think Grun's family will actually do trading and commerce.

[Grun]

Seems that would be the family to try to control this family ^__^

Yes, I magined this family would be "overground", so to speak. Off course, we'd control the market, if we got big enough and got monopoly on some goods.

Off course, things could get really interesting if another family like this erupted, because then we'd get price wars, which would be good for all others. And it might be good buisniss for the merchenary families, too ;)

[ODA-NOBUNAGA]

I think that is a great idea for a family Grun, I say stick with it and i wish you the best of luck. After all they say money is power

[Leluu]

I would like a family concept like yours, Grun, and would apply for your family ;)
So keep on working on your posts.

[Grun]

Half-way there now.

But I have one question, or, request.

Do anyone have any good ideas for a good name for the family? If it's a japanese word you're suggesting, I'd like it if you gave a translation to it.

[Leluu]

{charakter} Kohetsu (actually Honami Kohetsu; painter, calligrapher, ceramist; 1558-1637, foundet a colony for crafter and artists. he created the basics of a new decorative style, starting from motifs from Yamato-E which he masterly combined with calligraphy. he wrote poems onto paintings of plants and countrysides which were made with gold- or silvermash made from Sohtatsu).

[Grun]

Good suggestion, it could very well be used, but I'm not sure if I want to use a real name. I'm thinking more of something descriptinve.

Maybe just "Tradesman family" in Japanese, or somehting like that.

I made a little symbol-thing, too. I imagine it could be put onthings to show they belong to the family, like crates that's to be sent somewhere and such things. Check it here. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/HalfAbee/internett/Tatsumakifamilysymbol.jpg)
It's only a crude verison made in paint, as you may see, but you get the idea. Two circles, one about half as big as the other, and the lines that cross it and two lines between the two circles.

[ShininShado]

The kamon you made is really cool Grun. As far as a name, I'd suggest something something nature oriented, but that is just me. Perhaps an animal that migrates a lot, or one that moves a good bit. That is just my take it on, but you have some really good solid ideas sir.

[Grun]

It's called a Kamon? Is that the name for any symbol, or are there some restrictions on what you can call a kamon? Thanks for the compliment, though.

Yea, an animal name might work. I'd have to have the name translated to japanese though, but I'm sure people here can help with that.
Maybe a migrating bird of some sorts.. Any suggestions?

[ShininShado]

It's called a Kamon? Is that the name for any symbol, or are there some restrictions on what you can call a kamon? Thanks for the compliment, though.

Yea, an animal name might work. I'd have to have the name translated to japanese though, but I'm sure people here can help with that.
Maybe a migrating bird of some sorts.. Any suggestions?

First off, the name kamon translates to family <ka> crest <mon> for short sometimes they are simply called mon.

Secondly, it was a suggestion about the nature related name. If you already have a name in mind, by all means use that one, you're the creator of the family. Search the Japanese-name thread for more information relating to this. Good ideas though so far I believe.

[Kurosaki]

Grun my man, your family plan is great, its not entirely my thing but every game ive played ive always been the poor lost wandering soul. Think its time for me to up my ante.

*Raises cup of sake* Sir, i humbly offer you my services. (You will have to wait afew weeks, due to my insanely lame lappy that loves to overheat, im gna be building a desktop, but when it comes i will be on Tat:LaW every possible waking second)

[Grun]

Thanks for all the compliments, Kurosaki!

From your pm, I gather you won't do much actual trading, but, as you said, bodyguards are always needed. I'll be happy to welcome you to the family.

[Mokurei]

I'd be happy to trade protection services for goods or money ;)

[Grun]

Then this family isn't really the one for you :)

You'd be better of fidning one of the families which specialice in merchenary activities(selling their service as warriorrs).

This family, however, might employ one of those families in the future :)

Unless you're talking about the sort of "protection" where we pay you to not destroy our merchandice. In that case, I would have to have a little chat with one of the merchenary families and arrange for you to meet them. And then they would not be very nice to you.

[Kurosaki]

Thought of a name for the Family yet Grun?

[Grun]

Not yet, I'm still thinking about it.

I liked the animal-name suggestion, but I'm not sure about a suiting animal.

If anyone can think of any good ones, I'll be glad to hear them.

[ShininShado]

When I suggested that I was thinking like some sort of migratory bird, or maybe something related to wind. Just ideas though.

[Grun]

Ok, could any of you please translate these animal-names into Japanese? And feel free to give feedback on them as family-name.

Elephant, Owl, fox(they store food, so this could work), otter, turtle, tortoise, panda, squirrel(this could be good, they gather and store food, don't they).

And could someone suggest any migrating birds that stop in Japan, please?

[Akuma]

Zousan - Elephant.
Fukurou - Owl
Kitsune - Fox
Kawauso - Otter
Kame - turtle
Kame - tortoise (a few different turtle and tortoise variations but kame is the only one to mean generically both of them)
Panda - panda
Risu or kinezumi - squirrel

There are tons of variations - these are just the terms the JEDI (Japanese English Dictionary Interface) had listed as the generic animals. If you want to try others go to http://poets.notredame.ac.jp/cgi-bin/jedi-inon.

Set input to English or Japanese and output to romaji and English. Then enter the English word.

[Grun]

thank you once again, Akuma, I'm sure that link will be usefull for many in the future.

I'm starting to settly on Kame. It's a short, easy-to-remember name, and I'm sure I can come up with some good symbolisitc reasons once I start thinking about it. And I have a more personal reason for likeing it, as I'm a big fan of the Discworld books, and there the world is carried by four elephants standing on a turtle.

Hey, a symbolic reason; Turtles travel far and long, but return to the beach they were born on. So, travelling and returning home can work with this trading family.

[Kurosaki]

LOL, Kame's a cool name. Just make sure people dont start complaining about how slow we are.

[OmegaLord]

I would be interested in belonging in a crafter family, I would be like a master craftsman and create some of the most beautiful blades and armors in the entire country. Our craftsmen will be renowned as the best makers of items of all time, from elaborate shoji sliders, to the most eyecatching kimonos of the court. Our capital (homecity, whatever) will be known as "The city of the thousand arts and crafts"!...
Or I will be a simple weaponsmith in our family workshop, located in some important city.
Either way, I come forth to serve you, my master. May our plans result in great success and our family achieve the prosperity it hopes to get.

Off-topic: I suppose we will be able to create multiple characters in the game, right?

[ToshiMaru]

Off-topic: I suppose we will be able to create multiple characters in the game, right?

hopefully not, RPing mainly focus' on a character, and it'd make more sense to develope 1 character at a time. plus, theres really no need to have multiple characters; no class, no imaginary names on top of heads, and possibility to do almost anything.

[ShininShado]

Hmmm, I agree with ToshiMaru on this topic. As far as a cohesive community, one character helps that out tons. This relates to the trading family in the sense that with one character we'll be able to build stronger families.

[Grun]

The Kame family will soon be made.

Thank you for your patience.

This post gives me my hundreth, and then I can make the family.

Edit: I 'spose the mods can lock this now that the family is there. Well, unless they feel it should stay open, of course.