Ninjas in Tatsumaki???

[Erik426]

I've read in the history and culture section of the samurai origins of ninja. This brings to mind the (hopeful) possiblility of realistic ninjas in the game. I believe that if it is done carefully, ninjas (rogue samurais???) could be a factor (hopefully playable) in the game. I think it must be said that calling yourself a ninja and acting like a ninja is entirely possible (sorry if i ruined a secret that some people [myself included ;)] were thinking of trying.) but I believe that an attempt at some official recognition of ninja (rogue samurai?) to quests/story/etc. may be well worth it to have a chance of bringing to light our ninja plans. A few Ninja NPCs to validate our ninja thoughts and maybe some shuriken to buy from them or others would be in the lines of my thought. I think that by focusing on the realistic factors of ninja the game could be enhanced without being harmed.

So, any thoughts? Like/Dislike the idea? Feel free to post criticisms or to second the ninjutsu motion! Thanks for hearing (seeing?) my post. Peace and love peoples!

[Kurisu]

Uhm, did you even try a forum search? Or read about the general ideas of Tatsu(like no classes)?

[Senshi]

You can find information about the game in the Wiki (http://eoeforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44) or by using the search function (http://eoeforums.com/showthread.php?t=4485) on the forums.

[HeniuriSaito]

His avatar would be worth posting now.

Though, yes, take a careful reading of the wiki.

[WhiteHawk]

And in case you're feeling too lazy to search the Wiki, or if for some kind of curse you don't manage to find it there:

The game has no classes, which means you can learn anything you want as long as you find someone to teach you or something to learn from. At the moment the developers have planned the existance of a small amount of Ninjutsu/Ninjitsu schools scattered around the land, hidden from the view of the common man. So you'll have to look hard for them. You'll have to travel far for them. And when you do find them, if that ever happens, Ninjutsu will be very hard to learn, let alone master, so don't expect anyone to become a Ninja master all of the sudden. Also, as you suggested, ninjas will be realistic, so you won't find anyone jumping several meters in the air or hovering from rooftop to rooftop. I am personally hoping to see some water walking tools, but that's up to the devs to decide. They won't be magical or invulnerable, but they will be strong, which means learning shinobi techniques will be difficult.

tl;dr -> Ninjas? Yes. | Teleportation/Fireballs/Summons/Lightning fast speed? No. | Playable? Yes. | Easy to learn? No. | Will ninja dojos be in major cities? No, unless there is somekind of underground passageway. | Will they be hidden way from society? Yes.

[Erik426]

Thank you very much Whitehawk, sorry I didn't see that in the wiki >.>; Well, sorry to post this useless topic =p and im glad to see that ninjas might be what i hoped they would ;) (realistic, not a class, and hidden)

[Gheari]

Not really hidden... Anyone can be a shinobi, as long as you know a few tricks and how to sneak around I qualify you as a shinobi.

[WhiteHawk]

Not really hidden... Anyone can be a shinobi, as long as you know a few tricks and how to sneak around I qualify you as a shinobi.

Good point. Since there are no "classes" you could, in theory, walk around undercover performing assassinations and espionage for money without actually knowing Ninjutsu. Why would the client care whether you'll use ninja techniques or just rush in the room with a katana and swing it like mad... as long as it gets the job done... :D

[Kurisu]

Yeah, and that's what I wrote in the big ninjutsu thread.

I don't think it makes much sense to have "ub4h1337z0rzninj3skulz0rz"(for those who can't read this: totally unrealistic ninja schools that turn you into a "ninja" if you trained there for some time), but instead no defined ninja.
There should be tools to let players be something like a ninja, but not something to make the player a "ninja".

[HeniuriSaito]

The dojos would actually teach people to use ninjutsu, and any justus(no, no naruto) that actually are woth(and the master has already learned) fora a ninja, usually having a clan at all, instead of a "dojo in the mountais, where the master teachs any who would be able to reach the place"(actually, if a stranger could get close to that dojo in the mountais, the people who live there would actually try to kill the stranger, that's reality). But yet, knowing "justus" doesn't mean you're the Ub3rh4x0rNinj4, just means that you have actually a "better knowledge" of "ninja things" than most people, but "it all depends on the skill of the runner", just because you can kill one person with your thumb in their chest doesn't mean you know how to do uncover tasks.

[WhiteHawk]

Yeah, that's right. Ninjutsu is a useful "Skill" for Shinobi but it's not absolutely necessary, just like "Shuriken" and "Nekode Claws" aren't required to be a ninja.

Similarly, you don't need a farm to be a farmer...but it helps. :)

[Gheari]

Jutsu means skill,technique, etc. So any skill is a jutsu. Kenjutsu, taijutsu, kyujutsu, battojutsu, etc. And I think you do need a farm to be a farmer, otherwise you're a farmhand/sharecropper.

[WhiteHawk]

Jutsu means skill,technique, etc. So any skill is a jutsu. Kenjutsu, taijutsu, kyujutsu, battojutsu, etc. And I think you do need a farm to be a farmer, otherwise you're a farmhand/sharecropper.

Oh hurray, someone who realizes this. See? That's why I usually type "Ninjutsu" instead of "Ninjitsu":

"Nin" is "Man" or "Person".
"Jutsu" is "Art" or "Technique".
"Jitsu" is "kindness".

Despite the fact that in Japanese it is pronounced neither way, ( The actual pronunciation is kind of a mix between the two, sort of like "Ninjyutsu". ) when translating people often translate to either Ninjutsu or Ninjitsu.

Since typing "Ninjyutsu" is extremely uncommon ( But some people do use it ), I like to use Ninjutsu instead because meaning-wise, it just makes alot more sense.

[Kurisu]

If you know Japanese you should be aware that in this case the translation nin=hidden makes more sense...

[Gheari]

Agreed. Also Japanese vowels are pronounced different from English ones. A=ah, E=eh, I=long English E, O=oh, U=oo. So Ninjutsu=Neenjootsoo, but fast.

[Kurisu]

Luckily Japanese pronounciation has many similiarities to German's.

[WhiteHawk]

If you know Japanese you should be aware that in this case the translation nin=hidden makes more sense...

My knowledge of japanese is limited. =P
Thank you for the correction. :D