does anybody study traditonal japanese budo?

[xi ryu]

this game is about early japan, and as i can tell, few, if any of us study martial arts.

i study them but i am not allowed to say what ones because they are RARELY taught to outsiders (people not from japan) and i will get in big trouble if i say too much about the arts i know.

i will tell you that it was one of the most feared styles of mideval japan, it is documented that samurai have said "watch out for those who travel under the **** *** bannner while in combat, they are the most fierce"

so if any of you TRULY study traditional budo tell us what you study...if your allowed to.

[Tekashi]

Sounds like some old japanese guy let you in on a family secret eh? :) Well i do Akido and Tai Kwon Do if those are considered budo.

[xi ryu]

tae kwon do is korean, but they teach akido or Akido-no-jutsu where i study (for all of you, akido is pronounced ikeydoh)

and the art i study, is in its purist form, not watered down, sensai has actually pulled out the 20 foot long scrolls and showed us where it mentions the technique where he is teaching us from. so its not really a secret, you can learn it in 5 places out side of japan, but since we get ours dircetly from the scrolls we are not allowed to say anything that we know

[Shinoku]

Tekashi studies the same as me. Tae Kwon Do and Aikido. I also study Aido however I only started to pick that up about 5 months ago :)

[SmokeDragon]

Wow, being born in Oregon I feel like i'm getting the shaft ... I would still like to learn some martial arts, but I would feel kind of dumb being 17 and just getting in to it when I see 6 year olds going to learn karate all the time. On top of that the cash flow is very limited and I don't know if we have anything besides Karate and Kurav Mgraw (I'm sure I spelled that wrong). I don't suppose there is a free way to learn? A book? A website? An ebook? Someone else in Oregon willing to teach?

[Arrak]

I studied Isshin Ryu.

[ToshiMaru]

As much as i love martial arts, i am not allowed to involve myself with its ways. Even when my guardians understand that its about discipline, they still consider me not trying any, because they SAY that i am too strong willed and wild for my own good, so learning martial arts, to them, will only create choas. <---Yeah right.

Once i can support myself, i will learn martial arts - not those cheesy types that you see in those movies, but some really cool one.

[Hattori Hanzo]

What is a good martial arts style to learn? I could use some advise, I'v been looking into it and not sure what to learn.

[Arrak]

What is a good martial arts style to learn? I could use some advise, I'v been looking into it and not sure what to learn.

All styles are "good" but they have different uses. Why do you want to learn martial arts? For health, competition, or self defense? There is a world of difference between each kind.

If you want to learn sport martial arts I would recommend Tae Kwon Do, modern Wushu, or Judo.

For health go with some simple Qigong forms then work your way into Tai Chi. There are many kinds of each but go simple at first.

If your looking for self defense then there are a few styles I would recommend. Isshin Ryu and Gojo Ryu are awesome for self defense and fairly easy to pick up. Another two good Chinese styles would be Wing Chun and Hung Gar.

Now if your looking for complete systems that nurture both the internal and external forces of the body I would go with Chinese styles. Not because they are better but they tend to be more complete.

Also look at the school before you sign any contracts. Know what you want from them before you go. If you want traditional martial arts and not sport karate know what to look for. Does the school have weapons training? Any traditional martial art will have weapon training. Don't let the teacher say you don't need weapons training in modern times because that is bs. By training weapons you learn to master it and yourself. Also does the school stress competitions? Most traditional martial arts do not stress these and some frown on it.

[xi ryu]

its never too young to start traning in martial arts, most of the people i train with are 20's and 30's (the grand master is 70 somthing)

also, there is no "bad" arts you gotta learn the one that fits you, for instance, ninjutsu does not fit me because it is too hand to hand oriented, i am more suited to a sword, so i picked a sword skill to learn


try a google local search for dojo's if you want to get into martial arts

i hope this helps you guys out.

[xi ryu]

Also does the school stress competitions? Most traditional martial arts do not stress these and some frown on it.

DUDE, can you read my mind???? wow, you really know your stuff.

(check out my quotes)

[Ryuoshi Takayama]

Well I studied Kenpo for a bit. I never got far enough to use swords, but I enjoy h2h fighting a lot. This is probably a stupid question, but heheh is that Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu that's in the RK series even close to being real? My first guess is it's not, but I thought I would ask. :)

[Yagi]

I studied Ninjitsu for a year before doing my back in. You are right Xi Ryu, ninjitsu is very hand to hand but we also did alot of sword and hanbo work every single week we would do sword techniques. Our school was also learning from the original scrolls in Japan. They kept updating all the time when they decifered a new technique was really interesting. Like wise for Ninjitsu our grand master in japan was like 70 or 80 or something.

Good thing about my sensai was he would show us traditional footwork and get us all learning it and 2 months laster after practicing it alot we would be shown modern day adaptions to the same techniques and put it into real life scenarios, like nightclubs and bars and what not.

As Xi said... all ya have to do is find the one that fits you.

*bows to Xi* That is singley the best advice that anyone can give and Google is one of the best starts.

Well done mate

[nobody4422]

True budo?

Im sorry but I dont really understand what you mean here.

If youre talking about martial arts in general I have been studying Budo Taijustu for almost three years now. From the name of this you can obviously understand my confusion. The name translates roughly to "The Warriors Way of Moving the Body" or "The Way Moving Ones Body in Combat" (I personally prefer the first).

I think the individual parts can be translated Budo- Warrior or Combat, Tai- Body Movement, Justu- Way of. So i guess you must mean True Combat or Warriorship.

Ill go out on a limb here and guess you talking abour combat oriented styles. So to this I would have to say yes. Budo Taijutsu is a combat oriented fighting style with no sport or competitive forms. However as far as it being a secret, this by no means applies. The Bujinkan, the organization which houses Budo Taijustu, has been a multinational organization since the sometime in the 1970s.

I wouldnt say my training is exactly traditional either(or maybe it is, I dont really know what is traditional). Basically, my group of about 4-5 guys usually trains outside or in me the head teacher's basment (I consider everyone I train with my teacher). But there is not rigid structure, no "Sensei may I...", bows, or anything like that. Its a pretty relaxed atmosphere where we show up train, and just have a good time. ("Traditionally" our art was taught in a family/community setting, so my teachers claim that he is trying to foster more of a family atmosphere to keep with the tradition. I personally like it.)

Im not sure if this is what you mean by True Budo or not, but in my opinion, Budo isnt so much an art or fighting form, but more of an attitude and (pardon the cliche) a way of being.

Edit: After reading this through, I realize it sounds kind of asanine. Really Im just trying to figure out what you mean.
(There's an example of the Bujinkan Warrior Creed as my signature.)

[xi ryu]

first off, nice post
second, budo translates as warriorship so, true budo just means you learn a REAL skill, not somthing like kendo or any other compitition form, in kendo.....they teach you how to score points, in a budo skill, they teach you how to walk away with all of your limbs still attached.

i know what you mean about traditional budo, "traditionally" the skills i learn (and this is why i dont say what i know) was only taught to the daimyo and his bodyguards (if you want, there are records that tell the skills the daimyo's learned) but the shogun adopted a different form to learn so my art was allowed to spread through japan, and actually became the most feared style to encounter (because if someone was going to try and kill me, i would "feel" them behind me and i could react faster than the assassin could)

[Arrak]

I think what he means is traditional styles. Styles that stress tradition and the path of the warrior (budo) over the more modern sport karate styles.

[xi ryu]

I think what he means is traditional styles. Styles that stress tradition and the path of the warrior (budo) over the more modern sport karate styles.

AGAIN WITH THE MIND READING (can it be coincidence or......)

[Arrak]

AGAIN WITH THE MIND READING (can it be coincidence or......)

I'm not really a mind reader but I good at reading between the lines and getting the gist of whats being said. Sometimes that backfires though and I miss the whole meaning! :D

[nobody4422]

Im familier with the concept of that feeling your talking about. I cant remember what exactly its called in Japanese, but I think its called something like "hostile intent".

This is something that is, I dont want to say stressed, but ultimately the goal is to be able to feel it.

In fact that is our GoDan test. The Soke (hes the only one in the world allowed to give GoDan ranks) stand behind the person sitting in ?seiza?with a bokken and swings it at them. Ive never seen it done in person but, it my understanding that this is no trick, there are no sounds or signals, the soke just tries to hit them with with full intent of hurting them. The ones that pass are the ones that manage to get out of the way of the strike.

Its pretty interesting stuff.

[Hattori Hanzo]

I'm looking for a Self-Defense Style of fighting, not one with competitions and such as the focus.

[xi ryu]

I'm looking for a Self-Defense Style of fighting, not one with competitions and such as the focus.


you should try ninjutsu or ninpo, mabie akido? they all deal with hand to hand and most schools show you how to apply that to todays threats, with akido, i dont quite know, i think its all against knives and swords, so you could still use it today.


for nobody4422's post

i wonder if you study what i study, send me a PM on what you study but for my art, we do this at 7th or 8th kyu (5th is white belt, 10'th is black belt) but in the art i study, this "scent of murder" is what we learn to fight against.

i wish i could say more, sorry i can't
i'm not allowed to reveal hardly anything about what i study, (hardly ever leaves japan)

[connick]

I spent about six months learning Yoshin-Ryu Jujitsu. It's all of the formal training I've ever had as far as fighting is concerned. It was some pretty brutal training because my teacher insisted that we always experience the receiving end of our techniques so as to better understand how to perform the move more effectively on another. Our goal in Jujitsu was to be able to destroy or detain an opponent within 3 to 5 seconds using maximum impact and minimum effort. I can certainly attest that the 3-5 second limit is no joke because I have been succesfully rendered unconscious in about 2 :)

I was also interested to see the post that mentioned hanbo training. I think that I would very much like to learn some hanbo techniques, because a short stick is probably the most common and effective improvisational weapon I could think of.

[Cryptic]

Hi this is my first post
but yea I have been taking Iaijutsu for about 2 and a half years :P

[xi ryu]

has anyone ever seen a shaolen monk (did i spell it right?) those guys would be pretty scary to fight against. i wanna learn how to handle a bo-staff like that! i think a bo is too heavy to flail around that quickly though.

if you could learn any skill, what would it be?, mine is listed above, too bad you gotta enter the skills at age five, and must be of chineese decent. (curse my dutch-irish skin)

[neoSpider]

I really wanna learn a sword style of some kind, particularly of japanese decent. Iado (think i spelled that wrong) is one i do definetly like to learn especially since it deals with mastering yourself and the sword. Sucks for me though since there are no schools are by me.

I say if you want to learn to defend yourself, learn Krav Maga. Krav maga is not considered a "fighting style" but more of a way to destroy people fighting you. It a style taught to riot squads and used by the Isreali army, which made it. You are normally on the receiving when learning krav maga, therefore it really makes you tough.

As for Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu, it is actually based on a style but i forgot what style though the way he fights might fit Iado since it deals with pulling the sword from the sheath, slashing/killing the opponent in a single blow, shaking the blood off, and sheathing.

I could be wrong...

[Chronor]

(First Post)
I haven't had the blessed opportunity to study any traditional froms of martial arts. I've mostly just played around w/ my wooden sword and prayed for the best untill i met my friend who was taking video corses on a bo staff. I consider myself self-taught but well tested. Not saying I could down anyone here in a heartbeat w/ no training whatsoever, but i am saying i'm more than someone would expect.

With that aside, i'd want to study the brazilian Capoeria and mix it with tradional swordsmanship like in Samuari Champloo but not to be a fanboy but i've had that idea before the show. Most sword styles are sharp and the few flowing styles involve the chinese longsword, (which I think are uncomfortable), so i have no honest clue what to do other than study an art and tumble on the side. :)

[Slots]

i had 2 months of Kenpo ... eh .. .brutally americanized kenpo... at age like 7.... long long forgotten... but know that ive picked up a sabre (woo i fence) footworks about the same... in any martial arts... in any form of melee combat ... footwork is key... footwork


heh .. id like to learn aikido ... good for self defence just incase ... (watch a discovery channel thing on an airplane to England about this guy going about learning aikido ... heh apparently riot police in japan know aikido... )

heh...

[ToshiMaru]

i watched 4 movies of Bruce Lee, and studied Jet Li's moves free Lethal Weapon 4. :swordfigh

[TheSporkedOne]

Personaly, if you want a style that is based on fighting Muay Thai is the way to go. Seriously the style revolves around the idea of seeing how much damage you can deal out no matter the concequences. It trains you to be able to get beaten badly and still continue fighting. Examples of this brutal art form can be seen on www.compfused.com (which has some crazy bastards fighting!!!) as well as in the recent movie Ong-Bak (which comes to DVD in August and is released internationaly if you can get it).

[Slots]

or... if your friend already has the dvd.... heh... dunno how ... Ong-Bak is great...ting is the man ... and the other guys name translates into dirty balls @_@... hahaha... sucker...

and if yo uliked Shaolin Soccer i sugest watching Kung Fu hustle... same director and most of the same actors from shaolin soccer are in there... its a good movie as well...

[Kuroi|Samurai]

oo! Oo! I'm Chinese and I know how to use a Bo staff!

But I'd LOVe to learn how to use Budo, but I doubt I can, I'm sixteen, nowhere near such a Dojo and am probably ain't going to Japan anytime in the future.

Damns.

[ToshiMaru]

I loved Kung Fu Hustle and little of Shoalin Soccer. Ong-Bak, MAN!! that movie was CRAZY!!! the way he fights....my favorite part was when the white guy go F**** You!!, and was about to punch, then the dude does a direct face kick, and hes KOd instantly.